{"id":5325,"date":"2012-04-01T12:54:20","date_gmt":"2012-04-01T11:54:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/go6.si\/?p=5325"},"modified":"2012-04-01T14:35:11","modified_gmt":"2012-04-01T13:35:11","slug":"siietf-definira-novo-monost-demokratine-izbire-kovanec","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/go6.si\/en\/2012\/04\/siietf-definira-novo-monost-demokratine-izbire-kovanec\/","title":{"rendered":"IETF to standardize new democratic selection mechanism &#8211; the coin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/go6.si\/2012\/04\/siietf-definira-novo-monost-demokratine-izbire-kovanec\/\">[Slovenian version]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>IETF Softwire working group on Friday was all about discussion on which proposal among &#8220;Stateless A + P&#8221; variants to choose as the standard, which means that winner goes to &#8220;Standards Track&#8221; and the &#8216;looser&#8217; goes to the &#8220;Experimental Track&#8221;.\u00a0We were deciding between the options MAP-E\/MAP-T and 4RD-U &#8230;<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>After a long verbal battle (that seemed more like a boxing ring) there is yet no decision or consensus.\u00a0I often mentioned at the microphone that the decision must be made here today in any case, even with a usage of a mechanism similar to the choice of Pope &#8211; locked room and nobody goes out until we reach consensus on a choice.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/tools.ietf.org\/html\/draft-mdt-softwire-map-encapsulation-00\" target=\"_blank\">MAP-E<\/a>\u00a0is a variant of the A + P, which is using encapsulation as a transport, which means that the IPv4 &#8220;Payload&#8221; does not change, but only encapsulates the IPv6 packet.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/tools.ietf.org\/html\/draft-mdt-softwire-map-translation-01\" target=\"_blank\">MAP-T<\/a>\u00a0is similar variant of the A + P, but it translates IPv4 packets into IPv6 packets and at the core back to IPv4.\u00a0E-MAP and MAP-T form a logical package and should be implemented in a single product where you can choose the behaviour &#8211; depends on if you want to operate in a translation or encapsulation mode.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/datatracker.ietf.org\/doc\/draft-despres-softwire-4rd-u\/\" target=\"_blank\">4RD-U<\/a>\u00a0is a &#8220;Unified&#8221; solution that combines both options and operates both as a translation and encapsulation at the same time.<\/p>\n<p>Difference and comparison between the variants is quite well described in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/datatracker.ietf.org\/doc\/draft-despres-softwire-stateless-analysis-tool\/?include_text=1\" target=\"_blank\">this document<\/a>\u00a0.<\/p>\n<p>Understanding the high polarization of A+P community, the undersigned has clearly expressed its support for\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/datatracker.ietf.org\/doc\/draft-mdt-softwire-mapping-address-and-port\/\" target=\"_blank\">the MAP<\/a>\u00a0system, since in this case the operator may decide between encapsulation and the translation mode. This means that if encapsulation is preferred, there is no trace of translation (and vice versa).<\/p>\n<p>Since we did not achieve consensus and the Internet and vendors are waiting a decision, because the IPv4 address space is running out &#8211; the IETF decided to standardize the choice with the flip of a coin, because in this case it would came in very handy.<\/p>\n<p>The first dilemma with the definition of the coin, of course, is the currency &#8211; or is it Euro or Dollar or something else. Then it is necessary to define the weight of the coin, the coin size and the minimum height of the coin-throw. We should also make a decision between two landing modes: a coin thrower captures the coin and turns it on hand, or letting the coin drop on the floor. Then it should be accurately identified who of the bidders decides first the side of the coin &#8211; as this is an important decision.\u00a0Most important of all, it must be defined that the coin must have two different sides, one of which must contain at least one number, and what does it mean when a coin is dropped on the floor (or on hand) &#8211; does the up-facing side wins or looses &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Since this is not a standardized method of choice and consensus declaring in the IETF yet (and regarding the complexity of the dilemmas will not be anytime soon), it can not yet be used in decision-making procedures as this one, which subcategory of A+P will be &#8220;the one&#8221;. Well, pitty \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>But regarding the amount of new proposals and lack of consensus also in other working groups IETF is seriously looking into this democratic decision selection mechanism.<\/p>\n<p>Jan \u017dor\u017e \ud83d\ude42<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[Slovenian version] IETF Softwire working group on Friday was all about discussion on which proposal among &#8220;Stateless A + P&#8221; variants to choose as the standard, which means that winner goes to &#8220;Standards Track&#8221; and the &#8216;looser&#8217; goes to the &#8220;Experimental Track&#8221;.\u00a0We were deciding between the options MAP-E\/MAP-T and 4RD-U &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[1982,16],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/ptA56-1nT","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":5795,"url":"https:\/\/go6.si\/en\/2012\/08\/ietf-prva-analiza-kaj-je-potrebno-da-zanemo-ugasati-ipv4\/","url_meta":{"origin":5325,"position":0},"title":"(Slovensko) IETF: prva analiza, kaj je \u0161e potrebno, da za\u010dnemo uga\u0161ati IPv4","author":"JanZorz","date":"Wednesday August  8th, 2012","format":false,"excerpt":"na IETF se je pojavil prvi Internet draft, v katerem avtorji ugotavljajo, kaj vse bo \u0161e potrebno storiti oziroma kje so prepreke, zaradi katerih \u0161e ne moremo pri\u010deti z uga\u0161anjem IPv4 protokola v omre\u017ejih in storitvah... 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